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Saturday, August 23, 2014

KURIE
(From the RDB Files)

See the “My God” study of John 20:28

http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/10/mygod.html

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http://concordances.org/greek/kurie_2962.htm

All uses of kurie (κυριε, vocative form or noun of address for kurios: "lord, sir, master.") - 120 in NT. No undisputed uses of the nominative form (kurios) as a noun of address.

Mt 7:21

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord [κυριε, κυριε],' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.



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Mt 7:22
"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord [κυριε, κυριε], did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles ?'



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Mt 8:2
And a leper came to Him and bowed down before Him, and said, "Lord [κυριε], if You are willing, You can make me clean."



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Mt 8:6
and saying, "Lord [κυριε], my servant is lying paralyzed at home, fearfully tormented."



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Mt 8:8
But the centurion said, "Lord [κυριε], I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.



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Mt 8:21
Another of the disciples said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], permit me first to go and bury my father."



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Mt 8:25
And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, "Save us, Lord [κυριε]; we are perishing !"




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Mt 9:28
When He entered the house, the blind men came up to Him, and Jesus *said to them, "Do you believe that I am able to do this ?" They *said to Him, "Yes, Lord [κυριε]."



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Mt 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord [κυριε] of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.



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Mt 13:27
"The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, 'Sir [κυριε], did you not sow good seed in your field ? How then does it have tares ?'



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Mt 14:28
Peter said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], if it is You, command me to come to You on the water."

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Mt 14:30
But seeing the wind, he became frightened, and beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord [κυριε], save me!"

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Mt 15:22
And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, "Have mercy on me, Lord , Son of David ; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed."




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Mt 15:25
But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, "Lord [κυριε], help me!"




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Mt 15:27
But she said, "Yes, Lord [κυριε]; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters' table."



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Mt 16:22
Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "God forbid it, Lord [κυριε]! This shall never happen to You."




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Mt 17:4
Peter said to Jesus, "Lord [κυριε], it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah."



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Mt 17:15
"Lord [κυριε], have mercy on my son, for he is a lunatic and is very ill; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water.



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Mt 18:21
Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times ?"



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Mt 20:30
And two blind men sitting by the road, hearing that Jesus was passing by, cried out, "Lord [κυριε], have mercy on us, Son of David !"
 



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Mt 20:31
The crowd sternly told them to be quiet, but they cried out all the more, "Lord [κυριε], Son of David , have mercy on us!"



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Mt 20:33
They said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], we want our eyes to be opened."

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Mt 21:30
"The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, 'I will, sir [κυριε]'; but he did not go.



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Mt 25:11
"Later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord [κυριε, κυριε], open up for us.'

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Mt 25:20
"The one who had received the five talents came up and brought five more talents, saying, 'Master [κυριε], you entrusted five talents to me. See, I have gained five more talents.'


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Mt 25:22
"Also the one who had received the two talents came up and said, 'Master [κυριε], you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more talents.'



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Mt 25:24
"And the one also who had received the one talent came up and said, 'Master [κυριε], I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you scattered no seed.



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Mt 25:37
"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord [κυριε], when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink ?



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Mt 25:44
"Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord [κυριε], when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'




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Mt 26:22
Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, "Surely not I, Lord [κυριε]?"



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Mt 27:63
and said, "Sir [κυριε], we remember that when He was still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days I am to rise again.'



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Mr 7:28
But she answered and *said to Him, "Yes, Lord [κυριε], but even the dogs under the table feed on the children's crumbs."



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Lu 5:8
But when Simon Peter saw that, he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me, for I am a sinful man, Lord [κυριε]!"



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Lu 5:12
While He was in one of the cities, behold, there was a man covered with leprosy; and when he saw Jesus, he fell on his face and implored Him, saying, "Lord [κυριε], if You are willing, You can make me clean."



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Lu 6:46
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord [κυριε, κυριε],' and do not do what I say ?



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Lu 7:6
Now Jesus started on His way with them; and when He was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to Him, "Lord [κυριε], do not trouble Yourself further, for I am not worthy for You to come under my roof;



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Lu 9:54
When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord [κυριε], do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?"



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Lu 9:59
And He said to another, "Follow Me." But he said, "Lord [κυριε], permit me first to go and bury my father."



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Lu 9:61
Another also said, "I will follow You, Lord [κυριε]; but first permit me to say good-bye to those at home."




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Lu 10:17
The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord [κυριε], even the demons are subject to us in Your name."



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Lu 10:21
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord [κυριε] of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.



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Lu 10:40
But Martha was distracted with all her preparations; and she came up to Him and said, "Lord [κυριε], do You not care that my sister has left me to do all the serving alone ? Then tell her to help me."



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Lu 11:1
It happened that while Jesus was praying in a certain place, after He had finished, one of His disciples said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], teach us to pray just as John also taught his disciples."




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Lu 12:41
Peter said, "Lord [κυριε], are You addressing this parable to us, or to everyone else as well?"



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Lu 13:8
"And he answered and said to him, 'Let it alone, sir [κυριε], for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer;



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Lu 13:23
And someone said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], are there just a few who are being saved ?" And He said to them,



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Lu 13:25
"Once * the head of the house gets up and shuts the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock on the door, saying, 'Lord [κυριε], open up to us!' then He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know where you are from.'



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Lu 14:22
"And the slave said, 'Master [κυριε], what you commanded has been done, and still there is room.'



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Lu 17:37
And answering they *said to Him, "Where, Lord [κυριε]?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered."



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Lu 18:41
"What do you want Me to do for you?" And he said, "Lord [κυριε], I want to regain my sight!"



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Lu 19:8
Zaccheus stopped and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord [κυριε], half of my possessions I will give to the poor, and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will give back four times as much."



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Lu 19:16
"The first appeared, saying, 'Master [κυριε], your mina has made ten minas more.'



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Lu 19:18
"The second came, saying, 'Your mina, master [κυριε], has made five minas.'




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Lu 19:20
"Another came, saying, 'Master [κυριε], here is your mina, which I kept put away in a handkerchief;




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Lu 19:25
"And they said to him, 'Master [κυριε], he has ten minas already.'



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Lu 22:33
But he said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], with You I am ready to go both to prison and to death!"



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Lu 22:38
They said, "Lord [κυριε], look, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough."



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Lu 22:49
When those who were around Him saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord [κυριε], shall we strike with the sword ?"



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Joh 4:11
She *said to Him, "Sir [κυριε], You have nothing to draw with and the well is deep; where then do You get that living water?



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Joh 4:15
The woman *said to Him, "Sir [κυριε], give me this water, so I will not be thirsty nor come all the way here to draw."



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Joh 4:19
The woman *said to Him, "Sir [κυριε], I perceive that You are a prophet.



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Joh 4:49
The royal official *said to Him, "Sir [κυριε], come down before my child dies."

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Joh 5:7
The sick man answered Him, "Sir [κυριε], I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up, but while I am coming, another steps down before me."



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Joh 6:34
Then they said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], always give us this bread."



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Joh 6:68
Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord [κυριε], to whom shall we go ? You have words of eternal life.



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Joh 8:11
[She said, "No one, Lord [κυριε]." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."]

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Joh 9:36
He answered, "Who is He, Lord [κυριε], that I may believe in Him?"



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Joh 9:38
And he said, "Lord [κυριε], I believe." And he worshiped Him.



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Joh 11:3
So the sisters sent word to Him, saying, "Lord [κυριε], behold, he whom You love is sick."



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Joh 11:12
The disciples then said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], if he has fallen asleep, he will recover."



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Joh 11:21
Martha then said to Jesus, "Lord [κυριε], if You had been here, my brother would not have died.



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Joh 11:27
She said to Him, "Yes, Lord [κυριε]; I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who comes into the world."



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Joh 11:32
Therefore, when Mary came where Jesus was, she saw Him, and fell at His feet, saying to Him, "Lord [κυριε], if You had been here, my brother would not have died."



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Joh 11:34
and said, "Where have you laid him?" They *said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], come and see."



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Joh 11:39
Jesus said, "Remove the stone." Martha, the sister of the deceased, said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], by this time there will be a stench, for he has been dead four days."



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Joh 12:21
these then came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida of Galilee, and began to ask him, saying, "Sir [κυριε], we wish to see Jesus."



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Joh 12:38
This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet which he spoke: "LORD [κυριε], WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT ? AND TO WHOM HAS THE ARM OF THE LORD BEEN REVEALED?"



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Joh 13:6
So He came to Simon Peter. He said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], do You wash my feet?"



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Joh 13:9
Simon Peter *said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head."



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Joh 13:25
He, leaning back thus on Jesus' bosom, said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], who is it?"



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Joh 13:36
Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], where are You going ?" Jesus answered, "Where I go, you cannot follow Me now; but you will follow later."



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Joh 13:37
Peter said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], why can I not follow You right now ? I will lay down my life for You."


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Joh 14:5
Thomas said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?"



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Joh 14:8
Philip *said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], show us the Father, and it is enough for us."



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Joh 14:22
Judas (not Iscariot ) said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world ?"



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Joh 20:15
Jesus *said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping ? Whom are you seeking ?" Supposing Him to be the gardener, she said to Him, "Sir [κυριε], if you have carried Him away, tell me where you have laid Him, and I will take Him away."



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Joh 21:15
So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these ?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord [κυριε]; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Tend My lambs."



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Joh 21:16
He said to him again a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord [κυριε]; You know that I love You." He said to him, "Shepherd My sheep."



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Joh 21:17
He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me?" Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, "Do you love Me?" And he said to Him, "Lord [κυριε], You know all things; You know that I love You." Jesus said to him, "Tend My sheep.



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Joh 21:20
Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; the one who also had leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, "Lord [κυριε], who is the one who betrays You?"



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Joh 21:21
So Peter seeing him said to Jesus, "Lord [κυριε], and what about this man?"



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Ac 1:6
So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord [κυριε], is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?"



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Ac 1:24
And they prayed and said, "You, Lord [κυριε], who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen



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Ac 4:29
"And now, Lord [κυριε], take note of their threats, and grant that Your bond-servants may speak Your word with all confidence,



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Ac 7:59
They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord [κυριε] Jesus, receive my spirit!"



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Ac 7:60
Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord [κυριε], do not hold this sin against them!" Having said this, he fell asleep.



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Ac 9:5
And he said, "Who are You, Lord [κυριε]?" And He said, "I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,



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Ac 9:10
Now there was a disciple at Damascus named Ananias; and the Lord said to him in a vision, "Ananias." And he said, "Here I am, Lord [κυριε]."



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Ac 9:13
But Ananias answered, "Lord [κυριε], I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he did to Your saints at Jerusalem;



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Ac 10:4
And fixing his gaze on him and being much alarmed, he said, "What is it, Lord [κυριε]?" And he said to him, "Your prayers and alms have ascended as a memorial before God.



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Ac 10:14
But Peter said, "By no means, Lord [κυριε], for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean."



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Ac 11:8
"But I said, 'By no means, Lord [κυριε], for nothing unholy or unclean has ever entered my mouth.'



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Ac 22:8
"And I answered, 'Who are You, Lord [κυριε]?' And He said to me, 'I am Jesus the Nazarene, whom you are persecuting.'



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Ac 22:10
"And I said, 'What shall I do, Lord [κυριε]?' And the Lord said to me, 'Get up and go on into Damascus, and there you will be told of all that has been appointed for you to do.'



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Ac 22:19
"And I said, 'Lord [κυριε], they themselves understand that in one synagogue after another I used to imprison and beat those who believed in You.



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Ac 26:15
"And I said, 'Who are You, Lord ?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting.



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Ro 10:16
However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD [κυριε], WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT ?"



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Ro 11:3
"Lord [κυριε], THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."

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Heb 1:10
And, "YOU, LORD [κυριε], IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;

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Re 7:14
I said to him, "My lord [κυριε], you know ." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

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Re 11:17
saying, "We give You thanks, O Lord [κυριε] God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.



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Re 15:3
And they sang the song of Moses, the bond-servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, " Great and marvelous are Your works, O Lord [κυριε] God, the Almighty; Righteous and true are Your ways, King of the nations!



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Re 15:4
"Who will not fear, O Lord [κυριε], and glorify Your name ? For You alone are holy; For ALL THE NATIONS WILL COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE FOR YOUR RIGHTEOUS ACTS HAVE BEEN REVEALED."



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Re 16:7
And I heard the altar saying, "Yes, O Lord [κυριε] God, the Almighty, true and righteous are Your judgments."



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Re 22:20
He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly." Amen. Come, Lord [κυριε] Jesus.

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I have found a facsimile of Codex Sinaiticus. It does read κυριε ό κυριος και ό θεος at Rev. 4:11, whereas Codex Alexandrinus does not use kurie at all, but reads exactly as the Westcott and Hort, UBS, and Nestle texts: “Worthy are you, the lord (kurios) and the god (theos) of us, to receive….”

Here is part of an article discussing kurie:

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As we have noted, the vocative form of κυριος is common within the New Testament, being used 119 times. In fact, looking within the Septuagint we further observe 61 examples with the apocrypha and within the book of Psalms we find 225 occurrences when Lord precedes God where the vocative form is used, without exception.[1]

If we set John 20:28 aside, the one exception we find to the use of the vocative κυριε seems to be Revelation 4:11. The rendering found in most modern day translations for Revelation 4:11 is based on Codex Alexandrinus of the 5th century, reading ό κυριος και ό θεος ήμων. At the same time we find that the 4th century Codex Sinaticus reads κυριε ό κυριος και ό θεος.

The reading provided by Sinaiticus demonstrates what is known as Polyptoton.[2]

While many may be quick to note that the verse continues to use the nominative ό κυριος along with κυριε, this is explained as simple apposition, to which we would expect to find the nominative.[3] The use of the nominative here would follow standardized grammar and would not be a demonstration of a nominative for a vocative as ones argue for John 20:28. [emphasis added]

The answer in response to this is founded in Aland’s considering Alexandrinus a superior text. This is interesting, however, as Aland does consider Sinaiticus to be a class one manuscript, being “of a very special quality."[4] This of course does not change the fact that he considers Alexandrinus to be superior to Sinaiticus, but it is worth noting what Steven Thompson writes on the matter, stating: "From this it is evident that the reconstruction of the primitive text of the Apc. [Apocalypse or Revelation] must proceed from a broad textual basis, not overlooking the testimony of any witnesses. It is interesting to note that codex Sinaiticus, while considered to be inferior to the other uncials, in the text of the [Apc.], has preserved more of the Semitised readings cited in this study (a total of six) than has Alexandrinus, which is judged to be the best complete witness to the Apc."[5]


Thompson's study is interesting because it demonstrates that Sinaiticus does at times maintain the original reading over other manuscripts. While this does not specifically address the text of Revelation 4:11, it opens the door wider to the possibility of Sinaticus maintaining the proper reading. There are numerous other manuscripts that do indeed support the reading of κυριε at Revelation 4:11, with Herman Hoskier listing over 60 such examples.[6]

It thus proves beneficial to examine the use of κυριε/κυριος in the book of Revelation. Considering this we find that κυριε is used consistently, as within the rest of the Greek New Testament. This can be demonstrated in several passages: 7:14; 11:17; 15:3, 4; 16:7; 22:20. While it is possible that the Sinaiticus' copyist modified Revelation 4:11 to conform to the remaining texts within the book of Revelation, when we consider the entire weight of evidence for the use of the vocative form with Revelation and the other portions of the New Testament, it does lead to a reasonable level of doubt.

Of course none of this is absolutely conclusive and it is not intended to be taken as such. At present, the critical texts lean heavily on the accepted nominative rendering, and while the points herein made are of interest, they do not overturn the accepted reading. It can be reasonably said that the original reading may have been a vocative or perhaps even the divine name, which would have well fit into Sinaiticus' rendering, but to attempt to force the issue and say so conclusively would be to make an argument without a solid foundation. Therefore, Revelation 4:11 does prove to be a parallel to John 20:28 in respects to the nominative functioning as a vocative [? - see other bold paragraph above], but to use this as an absolute proof would put one on uncertain ground. [Bracketed material and emphasis added]



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[1] See below on our discussion of the matter of apposition

[2] Bullinger, E.W. Figures of Speech Used in the Bible. Explained and Illustrated, 267, states: “Polyptoton means with many cases, i.e., a repetition of the same noun in several cases.”

[3] Zerwick, Maximilian. Biblical Greek, Illustrated by Examples, English Edition Adapted from the Fourth Latin Edition by Joseph Smith, 120 explains: “the nominative with the article is always used in appositions added to a vocative.”

[4] Aland, Kurt and Barbara. The Text of the New Testament, An Introduction into the Critical Editions and into the Theory and Modern Practice of Modern Textual Criticism. 105.

[5] Thompson, Steven. The Apocalypse and Semitic Syntax, 10.

[6] Hoskier, Herman C. Concerning the Test of the Apocalypse, Collations of All Existing Available Greek Documents with the Standard Text of Stephen’s Third Edition, Together With the Testimony of Versions, Commentaries and Fathers, A Complete Conspectus of All Authorities, p 139.

- http://www.scripturaltruths.com/jesus/j2028/excursus.html

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Examples of vocative with vocative appositive

Matt. 11:25; Lu. 10:21; Rev. 15:3; 16:7; 22:20

Examples of vocative with nominative appositive:

Matt. 15:22; 20:30; 20:31; Rev. 11:17

Since all modern texts (including the Majority/Byzantine text) do not use kurie at Rev. 4:11. I believe the understanding of ho kurios kai ho theos is that of an appositive, not nouns of address. Even if Sinaiticus is correct here, we still have all uses of “Lord” used in address as kurie. See the MYGOD study.