tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post717787060146761733..comments2023-07-23T09:12:13.303-07:00Comments on Examining the Trinity: John 10:33 "a god" or "God"?Elijah Danielshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13053062645377291813noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post-35474041047826148342015-12-15T13:01:22.936-08:002015-12-15T13:01:22.936-08:00In response to my own comment above, Jesus claimed...In response to my own comment above, Jesus claimed to have been given God's authority and prerogatives (verses 27-30), and the Jews viewed this as a presumptuous, and therefore blasphemous claim to have been given Jehovah's authority. Thus he made himself "God" i.e. put himself in God's place. Jesus responded that those who were given authority by God as judges in Israel were called "gods" so why shouldn't God's only-begotten Son claim such authority? There is nothing in it to do with "homo-ousiousness". Timitriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786235138604501688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post-69241306710168210682014-11-06T13:17:08.058-08:002014-11-06T13:17:08.058-08:00The quotes from this publication begin in the para...The quotes from this publication begin in the paragraph before this one. The title of it is also given in that earlier paragraph: "A Translator's Handbook on the Gospel of John."tigger2https://www.blogger.com/profile/09601427279760049377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post-31579633595132388692014-11-06T09:13:35.091-08:002014-11-06T09:13:35.091-08:00There is a quote from p344 United Bible Societies ...There is a quote from p344 United Bible Societies 1980<br /><br />Is this the name of the publication. If so what is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post-9638018254888787632014-03-13T21:41:21.528-07:002014-03-13T21:41:21.528-07:00From my “I Am” study:
As for the charge that the ...From my “I Am” study:<br /><br />As for the charge that the Jews were going to stone him because he claimed to be God, we should be aware that the Jews stoned people for many offenses. For example, a person pretending to be a "wizard" was to be stoned to death according to the Law (Lev. 20:27 - KJV, RSV, ASV, LB). Today's Dictionary of the Bible, 1982 ed., tells us <br />"Wizard, a pretender to supernatural knowledge and power .... such a one was forbidden on pain of death to practice his deceptions ... Lev. 20:26, 27." - p. 654.<br /><br /><br />We also know that some of the Jews wanted Jesus killed for blasphemy because he admitted to being the Messiah (Christ) - see Matt 26:59-68 and footnotes for Matt 26:65 and Luke 22:71 in The NIV Study Bible, Zondervan Publ., 1985.<br /><br />It was even forbidden by the Jews for others to say that Jesus was the Messiah - John 9:22. And, in fact, that was obviously why Stephen was stoned to death. <br /><br />At Acts 7:55-58, Stephen looked up into heaven "and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and he said, 'Behold, I see the heavens opened and the Son of man [synonymous with the Messiah, not God] standing at the right hand of God.' But they [the Jews] ... cast him out of the city, and stoned him." - RSV.<br /><br />Stephen was stoned, not because he claimed to be God, nor because he claimed Jesus was God (quite the contrary, in fact, as his quoted statement clearly shows: Jesus "standing at the right hand of God") but because he was proclaiming Jesus to be the Messiah (Christ)! See The NIV Study Bible footnotes for Acts 7:56 and Mk 8:31. <br />………………<br />Not only would the Jews be familiar with the expression “I and [another person or persons] are one,” but Jesus has just told them (10:29), “My Father is greater than ALL.” - NASB. <br /><br /><br />Also see:<br /><br />THEON - ('RDB's Rule')<br />and<br />ONE - John 10:30<br /><br />These are in the right hand column of the home page here.<br />tigger2https://www.blogger.com/profile/09601427279760049377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3653325549409648983.post-42606446389058172932014-03-13T08:45:43.850-07:002014-03-13T08:45:43.850-07:00The only issue I have with this, and I am not a Tr...The only issue I have with this, and I am not a Trinitarian myself, is that I'm not sure why the Jews would have thought from Jesus saying that he was one in purpose with the Father (10:30) that he was "a god", and thus committing blasphemy?<br /><br />Put another way, why did the Jews want to stone Jesus for claiming to be "a god", as opposed to claiming to be "God", and why did they get this impression from Jesus' words at 10:30?Timitriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11786235138604501688noreply@blogger.com