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Friday, October 21, 2016

Trinity 'Proof' - Texts' Refuted



Many who believe that Jesus is God or in the Trinity rely only on a few selected, so-called 'proof-texts'.

The following links lead to research showing how the most frequently used so-called 'Proof Texts' are not proof of the Trinity in any way.

Google pulled the plug on this post!!  But you can access the individual studies by clicking on the indexes on the upper right side of the blog here (under "Trinity Subjects"). 

Wednesday, August 3, 2016

Theon’ found in Exodus (Septuagint)

Ex 1:17; Ex 1:21 ; Ex 2:23; Ex 3:11; Ex 3:13; Ex 4:16; Ex 7:1; Ex 8:25; Ex 8:26; Ex 10:17; Ex 10:18; Ex 18:19; Ex 19:8; Ex 19:18; Ex 19:21; Ex 19:23; Ex 19:24; Ex 24:2; Ex 32:30.

Of the 19 uses of theon in Exodus of the Greek Septuagint, only Exodus 7:1 does not use the definite article. Furthermore it is a D.O. which follows the verb. [See the THEON study -


http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/10/theon-rdbs-rule.html ]

7:1 kai eipen kurioV proV mwushn legwn idou dedwka se qeon faraw kai aarwn o adelfoV sou estai sou profhthV

So how is theon to be understood at Exodus 7:1?

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Exodus 7:1 Commentaries

The Adam Clarke Commentary:

Verse 1. I have made thee a god
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The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible:
I have made thee a god to Pharaoh;
not a god by nature, but made so; he was so by commission and office, clothed with power and authority from God to act under him in all things he should direct; not for ever, as angels are gods, but for a time; not in an ordinary way, as magistrates are gods, but in an extraordinary manner; and not to any other but to Pharaoh, being an ambassador of God to him,
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Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible 
Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown

I have made thee a god--"made," that is, set, appointed; "a god"; that is, he was to act in this business as God's representative, to act and speak in His name and to perform things beyond the ordinary course of nature. The Orientals familiarly say of a man who is eminently great or wise, "he is a god" among men.

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Matthew Henry Complete Commentary on the Whole Bible
Here, I. God encourages Moses to go to Pharaoh, and at last silences all his discouragements. 1. He clothes him with great power and authority (Exodus 7:1): I have made thee a god to Pharaoh; that is, my representative in this affair, as magistrates are called gods, because they are God's vicegerents.
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Joseph Benson’s Commentary
A god to Pharaoh — That is, my representative in this affair, as magistrates are called gods, because they are God’s vicegerents. He was authorized to speak and act in God’s name, and endued with a divine power, to do that which is above the ordinary course of nature.


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Arno Gaebelein's Annotated Bible
Twice Jehovah said that Moses should be a god. A god to Aaron (Ex. 4:16) and a god to Pharaoh (Exodus 7:1). He received divine authority and power over Pharaoh….


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Geneva Study Bible
Ex. 7:1
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a[*]god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
(*) I have given you power and authority to speak in my name and to execute my judgments on him.

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The Popular Commentary by Paul E. Kretzmann [Lutheran]

And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh, He had given him authority as His ambassador, with power to carry out His judgments


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Keil & Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament
At the same time Moses was also made a god to Pharaoh; i.e., he was promised divine authority and power over Pharaoh,


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Some trinitarian-translated Bibles which translate Exodus 7:1 as ‘a god’:

KJV

American KJV

21st Century KJV

KJ2000


AT

ERV

MKJV and LITV (Green)

Webster

GodsWord

The Message

BBE

GNT

Young’s

Moffatt

Byington

Lamsa

Leeser

IHOT

CAB

EJ2000


Tuesday, April 5, 2016

KURIE - All NT Uses of "Lord" in Address

All uses of the vocative (noun of address) KURIE

To be used with the “My God” study of John 20:28

http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/10/mygod.html

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http://concordances.org/greek/kurie_2962.htm

 

All uses of kurie (vocative form or noun of address for kurios: "lord, sir, master.") - 120 in NT. No undisputed uses of the nominative form (kurios) as a noun of address.

Mt 7:21

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.


21 Οὐ πᾶς λέγων μοι· κύριε κύριε εἰσελεύσεται εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τῶν ουρανῶν ἀλλ ποιῶν τὸ θέλημα τοῦ πατρός μου τοῦ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς.


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Mt 7:22
"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles ?'

22 πολλοὶ ἐροῦσιν μοι ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ· κύριε κύριε οὐ τῷ σῷ ὀνόματι ἐπροφητεύσαμεν καὶ τῷ σῷ ὀνόματι δαιμόνια ἐξεβάλομεν, καὶ τῷ σῷ ὀνόματι δυνάμεις πολλὰς ἐποιήσαμεν;



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Mt 8:2
And a leper came to Him and bowed down before Him, and said, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean."

2 καὶ ἰδοὺ λεπρὸς προσελθὼν προσεκύνει αὐτῷ λέγων κύριε ἐὰν θέλῃς δύνασαι με καθαρίσαι.



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Mt 8:6
and saying, "Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, fearfully tormented."

6 καὶ λέγων κύριε παῖς μου βέβληται έν τῇ οἰκίᾳ παραλυτικός δεινῶς βασανιζόμενος.



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Mt 8:8
But the centurion said, "Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

8 ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ἑκατόνταρχος ἔφη κύριε οὐκ εἰμὶ ἱκανὸς ἵνα μου ὑπὸ τὴν στέγην εἰσέλθῃς ἀλλὰ μόνον εἰπὲ λόγῳ καὶ ἱαθήσεται παῖς μου.



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Mt 8:21
Another of the disciples said to Him, "Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father."
21 ἕτερος δὲ τῶν μαθητῶν εἶπεν αὐτῷ· κύριε ἐπίτρεψον μοι πρῶτον ἀπελθεῖν καὶ θάψαι τὸν πατέρα μου.



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Mt 8:25
And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, "Save us, Lord; we are perishing !"
25 καὶ προσελθόντες ἤγειραν αὐτὸν λέγοντες· κύριε, σῶσον, ἀπολλύμεθα.



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Mt 9:28
When He entered the house, the blind men came up to Him, and Jesus *said to them, "Do you believe that I am able to do this ?" They *said to Him, "Yes, Lord."
28 ἐλθόντι δὲ εἰς τὴν οἰκίαν προσῆλθον αὐτῷ οἱ τυφλοί, καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς Ἰησοῦς· πιστεύετε ὅτι δύναμαι τούτο ποιῆσαι; λέγουσιν αὐτῷ· ναὶ κύριε.



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Mt 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.
25 Ἐν ἐκείνῳ τῷ καιρῷ ἀποκριθεὶς Ἰησοῦς εἶπεν· ἐξομολογοῦμαι σοι, πάτερ, κύριε τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καὶ τῆς γῆς, ὅτι ἔκρυψας ταῦτα ἀπὸ σοφῶν καὶ συνετῶν καὶ ἀπεκάλυψας αὐτὰ νηπίοις·



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Mt 13:27
"The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field ? How then does it have tares ?'
27 προσελθόντες δὲ οὶ δοῦλοι τοῦ οἰκοδεσπότου εἶπον αὐτῷ· κύριε οὐχὶ καλὸν σπέρμα ἔσπειρας ἐν τῷ σῷ ἀγρῷ; πόθεν οὐν ἔχει ζιζάνια;



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Mt 14:28

28 ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ Πέτρος εἶπεν αὐτῷ· κύριε, εἰ συ εἶ, κέλευσον με ἐλθεῖν πρός σε ἐπὶ τὰ ὕδατα.

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Mt 14:30
But seeing the wind, he became frightened, and beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord, save me!"
30 βλέπων δὲ τὸν ἄνεμον ἐφοβήθη, καὶ ἀρξάμενος καταποντίζεσθαι ἔκραξεν λέγων· κύριε, σῶσον με.

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Mt 15:22
And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David ; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed."
22 καὶ ἰδοὺ γυνὴ Χαναναία ἀπὸ τῶν ὁρίων ἐκείνων ἐξελθοῦσα ἔκραζεν λέγουσα· ἐλέησον με, κύριε υἱὸς Δαυίδ· θυγάτηρ μου κακῶς δαιμονίζεται.



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Mt 15:25
But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, "Lord, help me!"
25 δὲ ἐλθοῦσα προσεκύνει αὐτῷ λέγουσα· κύριε, βοήθει μοι.



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Mt 15:27
But she said, "Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters' table."
27 δὲ εἶπεν· ναὶ κύριε, καὶ [γὰρ] τὰ κυνάρια ἐσθίει ἀπὸ τῶν ψιχίων τῶν πιπτόντων ἀπὸ τῆς τραπέζης τῶν κυρίων αὐτῶν.



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Mt 16:22
Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "God forbid it, Lord ! This shall never * happen to You."
22 καὶ προσλαβόμενος αὐτὸν Πἐτρος ἤρξατο ἐπιτιμᾶν αὐτῷ λέγων· ἵλεως σοι, κύριε· οὐ μὴ ἔσται σοι τοῦτο.



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Mt 17:4
Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah."
4 ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ Πέτρος εἶπεν τῷ Ἰησοῦ· κύριε καλόν ἐστιν ἡμᾶς ὧδε εἶναι· εἰ θέλεις, ποιήσω ὧδε τρεῖς σκηνάς σοι μίαν καὶ Μωϋσεῖ μίαν καὶ Ἠλίᾳ μίαν.



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Mt 17:15
"Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is a lunatic and is very ill *; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water.
15 καὶ λέγων· κύριε, ἐλέησον μου τὸν υἱὸν, ὅτι σεληνιάζεται καὶ κακῶς ἔχει πολλάκις γὰρ πίπτει εἰς τὸ πῦρ καὶ πολλάκις εἰς τὸ ὕδωρ.



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Mt 18:21
Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times ?"
21 Τότε προσελθὼν Πέτρος εἶπεν [αὐτῷ]· κύριε, ποσάκις ἁμαρτήσει εἰς ἐμὲ ἀδελφός μου καὶ ἀφήσω αὐτῷ; ἕως ἑπτάκις;



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Mt 20:30
And two blind men sitting by the road, hearing that Jesus was passing by, cried out, "Lord, have mercy on us, Son of David !"
30 καὶ ἰδοὺ δύο τυφλοὶ καθήμενοι παρὰ τὴν ὁδὸν ἀκούσαντες ὅτι Ἰησοῦς παράγει, ἔκραξαν λέγοντες· κύριε, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς, υἱὸς Δαυίδ.



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Mt 20:31
The crowd sternly told them to be quiet, but they cried out all the more, "Lord, Son of David , have mercy on us!"
31 δὲ ὄχλος ἐπετίμησεν αὐτοῖς ἵνα σιωπήσωσιν· οἱ δὲ μεῖζον ἔκραξαν λέγοντες· κύριε, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς, υἱὸς Δαυίδ.



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Mt 20:33
They *said to Him, "Lord, we want our eyes to be opened."
33 λέγουσιν αὐτῷ· κύριε, ἵνα ἀνοιγῶσιν οἱ ὀφθαλμοὶ ἡμῶν.

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Mt 21:29
"In answer fhis one said, 'I will, sir,' but did not go out."
δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν· ἐγὼ, κύριε, καὶ οὐκ ἀπῆλθεν.



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Mt 25:11
"Later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord, open up for us.'
11 ὕστερον δὲ ἔρχονται καὶ αἱ λοιπαὶ παρθένοι λέγουσαι· κύριε κύριε, ἄνοιξον ἡμῖν.

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Mt 25:20
"The one who had received the five talents came up and brought five more talents, saying, 'Master, you entrusted five talents to me. See, I have gained five more talents.'
20 καὶ προσελθὼν τὰ πέντε τάλαντα λαβὼν προσήνεγκεν ἄλλα πέντε τάλαντα λέγων· κύριε· πέντε τάλαντα μοι παρέδωκας·



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Mt 25:22
"Also the one who had received the two talents came up and said, 'Master, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more talents.'
22 προσελθὼν καὶ τὰ δύο τάλαντα εἶπεν· κύριε, δύο τάλαντα μοι παρέδωκας· ἴδε ἄλλα δύο τάλαντα ἐκέρδησα.



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Mt 25:24
"And the one also who had received the one talent came up and said, 'Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you scattered no seed.
24 προσελθὼν δὲ καὶ τὸ ἓν τάλαντον εἰληφὼς εἶπεν· κύριε, ἔγνων σε ὅτι σκληρὸς εἶ ἄνθρωπος, θερίζων ὅπου οὐκ ἔσπειρας καὶ συνάγων ὅθεν οὐ διεσκόρπισας,



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Mt 25:37
"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink ?
37 τότε ἀποκριθήσονται αὐτῷ οἱ δίκαιοι λέγοντες· κύριε, πότε σε εἴδομεν πεινῶντα καὶ ἐθρέψαμεν, διψῶντα καὶ ἐποτίσαμεν;



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Mt 25:44
"Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
44 τότε ἀποκριθήσονται καὶ αὐτοὶ λέγοντες· κύριε, πότε σε εἴδομεν πεινῶντα διψῶντα ξένον γυμνὸν ἀσθενῆ ἐν φυλακῇ καὶ οὐ διηκονήσαμεν σοι;



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Mt 26:22
Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, "Surely not I, Lord ?"
22 καὶ λυπούμενοι σφόδρα ἤρξαντο λέγειν αὐτῷ εἷς ἕκαστος· μήτι ἐγώ εἰμι, κύριε;



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Mt 27:63
and said, "Sir, we remember that when He was still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days I am to rise again.'
63 λέγοντες· κύριε, ἐμνήσθημεν ὅτι ἐκεῖνος πλάνος εἶπεν ἔτι ζῶν· μετὰ τρεῖς ἡμέρας ἐγείρομαι.



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Mr 7:28
But she answered and *said to Him, "Yes, Lord, but even the dogs under the table feed on the children's crumbs."
28 δὲ ἀπεκρίθη καὶ λέγει αὐτῷ· ναί, κύριε· καὶ τὰ κυνάρια ὑποκάτω τῆς τραπέζης ἐσθίουσιν ἀπὸ τῶν ψιχίων τῶν παιδίων.



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Lu 5:8
But when Simon Peter saw that, he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man, O Lord !"
8 ἰδὼν δὲ Σίμων Πέτρος προσέπεσεν τοῖς γόνασιν Ἰησοῦ λἐγων· ἔξελθε ἀπἐμοῦ, ὅτι ἄνηρ ἁμαρτωλός εἰμι, κύριε.



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Lu 5:12
While He was in one of the cities, behold, there was a man covered with leprosy; and when he saw Jesus, he fell on his face and implored Him, saying, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean."
12 Καὶ ἐγένετο ἐν τῷ εἶναι αὐτὸν ἐν μιᾷ τῶν πόλεων καὶ ἰδοὺ ἄνηρ πλήρης λέπρας· ἰδὼν δὲ τὸν Ἰησοῦν πεσὼν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον ἐδεήθη αὐτοῦ λέγων· κύριε, ἐὰν θέλης δύνασαι με καθαρίσαι.



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Lu 6:46
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say ?
46 Τί δὲ με καλεῖτε· κύριε κύριε, καὶ οὐ ποιεῖτε λέγω;



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Lu 7:6
Now Jesus started on His way with them; and when He was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to Him, "Lord, do not trouble Yourself further, for I am not worthy for You to come under my roof;
6 δὲ Ἰησοῦς ἐπορεύετο σὺν αὐτοῖς. ἥδη δὲ αὐτοῦ οὐ μακρὰν ἀπέχοντος ἀπὸ τῆς οἰκίας ἔπεμψεν φίλους ἑκατοντάρχης λέγων αὐτῷ· κύριε, μὴ σκύλλου, οὐ γὰρ ἱκανός εἰμι ἵνα ὑπὸ τὴν στέγην μου εἰσέλθῃς·



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Lu 9:54
When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?"
54 ἰδόντες δὲ οἱ μαθηταὶ Ἰάκωβος καὶ Ἰωάννης εἶπαν· κύριε, θέλεις εἴπωμεν πῦρ καταβῆναι ἀπὸ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καὶ ἀναλῶσαι αὐτούς;



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Lu 9:61
Another also said, "I will follow You, Lord; but first permit me to say good-bye to those at home."
61 Εἶπεν δὲ καὶ ἕτερος· ἀκολουθήσω σοι, κύριε, πρῶτον δὲ ἐπίτρεψον μοι ἀποτάξασθαι τοῖς εἰς τὸν οἶκον μου.



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Lu 10:17
The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name."
17 Ὑπέστρεψαν δὲ οἱ ἑβδομήκοντα [δύο] μετὰ χαρᾶς λέγοντες· κύριε, καὶ τὰ δαιμόνια ὑποτάσσεται ἡμῖν ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι σου.



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Lu 10:21
At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I praise You, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
21 Ἐν αὐτῇ τῇ ὧρᾳ ἠγαλλιάσατο τῷ πνεύματι τῷ ἁγίῳ καὶ εἶπεν· ἐξομολογοῦμαι σοι, πάτερ, κύριε τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καὶ τῆς γῆς, ὅτι ἀπέκρυψας ταῦτα ἀπὸ σοφῶν καὶ συνετῶν καὶ ἀπεκάλυψας αὐτὰ νηπίοις· ναὶ πατήρ, ὅτι οὕτως εὐδοκία ἐγένετο ἔμπροσθεν σου.



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Lu 10:40
But Martha was distracted with all her preparations; and she came up to Him and said, "Lord, do You not care that my sister has left me to do all the serving alone ? Then tell her to help me."
40 δὲ Μάρθα περιεσπᾶτο περὶ πολλὴν διακονίαν· ἐπιστᾶσα δὲ εἶπεν· κύριε, οὐ μέλει σοι ὅτι ἀδελφή μου μόνην με κατέλειπεν διακονεῖν; εἶπον οὖν αὐτῇ ἵνα μοι συναντιλάβηται.



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See part 2  https://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2019/01/kurie-part-2.html